"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
The maturity of the A/V post says enough.
Are they honestly serious? I wonder if they know that the way they talk about the pop culture is the way Westerners are portrayed in the terrorist minds. Religious fanatics all of them are nuts. Whatever religion they come from. Whatever happened to God's promise of free will? Doesn't sound like these people are to correct in what they are fighting for, or have no idea.
I am a little stunned to read about these militant Christian youth. The only historical parallell I can muster is Nazi Youth.Of course teens hurt and search for truth. However, truth is realized through the power of conversation with people unlike you and through exploration and tolerance of other cultures and ideas. Clinging to Christian rhetoric because you feel slighted by popular culture is frightening. These Christian radicals are no different than the Muslim radicals we see in press. Shame on the parents for not exposing their kids to the fact that the world is a complex and beautiful place. Surrounding yourself with sameness leads to small mindedness, repetition and oppression... all at a time of life when the world should be fresh, daunting and engaging to these kids. Frightening, truly frightening.
Yeah, it does say enough. It says that young Christians are pressured by adult believers to buy crappy music by artists who couldn't hack it creatively in a more competitive forum. Christian rock is like the popular music equivalent of special ed.The only reason someone is harmed by The Beatles or by any popular music is because they allowed themselves to be harmed, because they lack strength in their beliefs. And if that kid is scared by The Beatles, that kid better stay the heck away from digg.com or any other public forum where the atheists throw down the gloves on a regular basis.Clearly, he's ill-equipped to deal with dissent. Better to hide under a rock with those who share his beliefs.Come to think it of it, it's a lot like all the conservative talk radio acolytes.
God didn't promise free-will (where does it say that in the Bible?) He made us with free will. What kind of god would that be to be created without free-will.I'm amazed at the comments about Muslim and Nazi. Please folks, back on the planet. To feel threatened enough to suggest that end of the spectrum is amazing to me. There is no violence reported, it's not what they stand for. They do stand for bettering themselves. Last time I looked (actually you don't have to look, it's in your face), this world needs a whole lot of help in that department. There's not a moment, not a single second, where proclaiming improvement in society is wrong. Musicians who couldn't cut it. That's funny. Phil Keaggy was a guitarist, Christian guitarist who has fingers. Jimmy Hendrix and him were agquaintances. Hendrix considered Keaggy better than himself. Chrisitan musicians do it out of free-will and choice - again for promoting the betterment of the world.
Yeah, the Muslim and Nazi stuff is a bit over the top.So when Christian artists like Amy Grant cross over, and then run back to the Christian music community when their music has no staying power, what's the message there?Also, if Wikipedia is to be believed, there's no evidence of that Hendrix quote. It's an old wives' tale. That's not to say anything about Keaggy's ability - just that a talented musician electing to dominate Christian music would kind of be like Alex Rodriguez or Barry Bonds passing on the majors so that they could hang back and dominate double-A baseball - then suggesting it's because God wants them playing in Chattanooga or Harrisburg.If the purpose of Christian music is to share God's message of love and redemption, shouldn't Christian artists do a better job of evangelizing and spend less time preaching to the choir? And in approaching that, wouldn't it be easier to just be an open Christian playing pop music than trying to sell crappy praise band tunes to the masses?
Amy Grant. There's an oldie in Christian Music. I think the message is that she decided to go back for reasons you and I are not privileged to know. Bottom line is Christian (musicians included) are driven by what God has for their life. Sometimes God calls people to missionaries, and some call people to buy the homeless person they drive by everyday a hot meal and give them a bag of clothes. Crossing over has always been an interesting term because it deliniates a line and the line is really not the music, it's the lyrics.I'm aware of the controversy of the statement. My point was to say that Christian musicians are as talented as secular. Because you're a Christian doesn't make you a crappy musician. And if you are that's where prayer comes into play. It also means if you're a bad musician, the choir _will_ ask you to step down.God will ask you to do funny things. He asked Evan almight (aka Noah) to do something odd. God often pushes Christians into uncomfortable areas to compel reliance upon Him.I agree. Christians always have the call of being better about their calling. Hypocracy is what so often taints Christians, but it also taints non-Christians. When the man speeding in front of me tells me to slow down..etc.I appreciate the question about 'open Christian playing pop music'. As a Christian I appreciate what the Bible says about how Christians will be perceived by the world (non-Christians). Lyrics about Christian living (not about coming to Christ in the first place) are foreign to the non-Christian. The media at large is about making money. With that said, Amy Grant's following compared to Gwen's - there's going to be some zero's missing. Distribution is also the problem. Back when Amy Grant hit the scene in Christian Music, you couldn't buy her album at the Wherehouse or Tower Records. Here in lies the problem for Christian artists who want to get their message to people outside the choir. If I can't distribute my message to to the non-Christians because the big record labels won't distribute my albums, then I have to see what I have to do to get that distribution. Cross-over in those terms was necessary. Back then, the internet was not a reality.Casting Crowns (the band) has some good 'praise band tunes'. They'll take the stereotyping out of the 70's or 80's image which is so often painted by that term.
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