An anonymous reader left me a question that I think is fair: what about Walker's policies, wither things he did or did not do, that you specifically disagree with?
To be clear, I'm not the one who told Scott Walker it would be a brilliant idea to promise a defined number of jobs during his first term. That person should be fired. And Walker should have his head checked for promising voters something he could never realistically deliver. By his most important measure in the campaign, Walker's first term in office - if he even completes it - will be an abject failure.
But beyond the job numbers, let's take what the Philadelphia Fed had to say about Wisconsin's economy earlier this month. For those of you who don't know, the Philly Fed releases leading indices, which are six-month economic forecasts for the 50 states. Wisconsin is one of only four states on the mainland 48 projected for economic contraction in the next six months. The others are Wyoming, Louisiana, and Rhode Island.
Here's a graph of the leading index measures for Wisconsin for the last three years. We see steady improvement into early 2010, a plateau, and then a precipitous decline immediately after Walker's inauguration, with further worsening predicted.
But beyond the job numbers, let's take what the Philadelphia Fed had to say about Wisconsin's economy earlier this month. For those of you who don't know, the Philly Fed releases leading indices, which are six-month economic forecasts for the 50 states. Wisconsin is one of only four states on the mainland 48 projected for economic contraction in the next six months. The others are Wyoming, Louisiana, and Rhode Island.
Here's a graph of the leading index measures for Wisconsin for the last three years. We see steady improvement into early 2010, a plateau, and then a precipitous decline immediately after Walker's inauguration, with further worsening predicted.
The Philly Fed also releases a measure called a coincident index - a numeric measure of nonfarm payroll employment, average hours worked in manufacturing, the unemployment rate, and wage and salary disbursements. Here, Wisconsin is one of only four mainland states whose score is still dropping - the others being Wyoming, Minnesota and Rhode Island.
Using the coincident index, one also notices an interesting phenomenon. Scott Walker is the opposite of Barack Obama. Obama inherited an economy that was tanking, and after about two or three quarters, things turned around and have been improving ever since.
By this measure, Walker inherited a state economy that was on the uptick from late 2009 through mid-year 2011, when suddenly things began turning south once again.
Is the argument going to be that things would've been worse under Tom Barrett? Conservatives have refused to accept that argument when Obama makes it, so surely it can be no more acceptable in this context without exposing an inherent hypocrisy in their ability to process information.
So as it goes, Wisconsin is one of the worst economic performers in the country right now, and using two major measures of economic performance, things have gotten measurably worse subsequent to Scott Walker's election.
Coincidence? Maybe. Correlation? Maybe. Different from what Scott Walker promised? Absolutely.
In my mind, the failure is simple. When an economy is weak, don't take spending out of it and don't severely diminish the spending capacity of many of its participants.
Walker's proposals are failing for the same reason that Obama's Making Work Pay tax credit bombed. The theory behind Making Work Pay was that people would be more inclined to spend their additional money if they got it a little bit at a time instead of in one lump sum. But what behavioral economists found is that if the money received on an incremental basis is relatively insignificant, it doesn't get spent at all.
So while some conservatives are wildly rejoicing at a $20 or $30 savings on their property tax bills courtesy of Governor Walker, the reality is that their $20-30 came at the expense of many public employees losing their jobs, or the tens of thousands of public employees who are now taking home thousands of dollars less each year as the result of higher health insurance and pension costs.
In other words, less economic activity is generated in Wisconsin by 200 people with 20 extra dollars than is generated by one person in Wisconsin with 4,000 extra dollars. Not really rocket science, but we should note that the Obama administration got this one wrong as well.
Furthermore, you can throw all the tax cuts you want at producers, but if there's no demand, they're not going to take advantage of them. The problem is with consumption, not production.
I'm firmly for balancing budgets, paying for what you buy, running surpluses in good economic times, and spending those surpluses in recessions. But if government hasn't been responsible in that regard, cutting spending in a recession is the wrong way to start.
By this measure, Walker inherited a state economy that was on the uptick from late 2009 through mid-year 2011, when suddenly things began turning south once again.
Is the argument going to be that things would've been worse under Tom Barrett? Conservatives have refused to accept that argument when Obama makes it, so surely it can be no more acceptable in this context without exposing an inherent hypocrisy in their ability to process information.
So as it goes, Wisconsin is one of the worst economic performers in the country right now, and using two major measures of economic performance, things have gotten measurably worse subsequent to Scott Walker's election.
Coincidence? Maybe. Correlation? Maybe. Different from what Scott Walker promised? Absolutely.
In my mind, the failure is simple. When an economy is weak, don't take spending out of it and don't severely diminish the spending capacity of many of its participants.
Walker's proposals are failing for the same reason that Obama's Making Work Pay tax credit bombed. The theory behind Making Work Pay was that people would be more inclined to spend their additional money if they got it a little bit at a time instead of in one lump sum. But what behavioral economists found is that if the money received on an incremental basis is relatively insignificant, it doesn't get spent at all.
So while some conservatives are wildly rejoicing at a $20 or $30 savings on their property tax bills courtesy of Governor Walker, the reality is that their $20-30 came at the expense of many public employees losing their jobs, or the tens of thousands of public employees who are now taking home thousands of dollars less each year as the result of higher health insurance and pension costs.
In other words, less economic activity is generated in Wisconsin by 200 people with 20 extra dollars than is generated by one person in Wisconsin with 4,000 extra dollars. Not really rocket science, but we should note that the Obama administration got this one wrong as well.
Furthermore, you can throw all the tax cuts you want at producers, but if there's no demand, they're not going to take advantage of them. The problem is with consumption, not production.
I'm firmly for balancing budgets, paying for what you buy, running surpluses in good economic times, and spending those surpluses in recessions. But if government hasn't been responsible in that regard, cutting spending in a recession is the wrong way to start.
11 comments:
"Furthermore, you can throw all the tax cuts you want at producers, but if there's no demand, they're not going to take advantage of them. The problem is with consumption, not production."
This should be obvious but so many people don't get it and continue the mantra that producers will hire people if they get a tax cut. They'll hire if there is demand for their product or service and they can make money. Period. Oh, and my property taxes went UP a couple hundred this year, like they do every year. Excellent post, RS.
Excellent post. Why is it that the smartest people in the room are so clueless about how business works. Just because you have extra money (tax cuts) doesn't mean that you will hire. You hire if there is something for those people to do and you have already worked your existing staff to the maximum (this is why employment lags after a recession because it is cheaper to pay overtime than it is to hire), and of course that you can continue to make money. We could make business taxes zero and the economy would not boom but the public sector would be defunded.
"To be clear, I'm not the one who told Scott Walker it would be a brilliant idea to promise a defined number of jobs during his first term. That person should be fired."
Agreed, that was a really stupid move. Should've learned from Obama who did similar & kept reclassifying (from jobs created to created, saved or possibly at some point down the road might be created).
"Is the argument going to be that things would've been worse under Tom Barrett?"
Agreed completely, that is a losing argument to put it kindly.
"When an economy is weak, don't take spending out of it and don't severely diminish the spending capacity of many of its participants."
In general, sure. But at what point - especially at the state level where there are no monetary controls - do excessive deficits cause bigger, more difficult and more long-term problems than they fix? For state citizens as a whole, how has our spending capacity been severely diminished?
"the reality is that their $20-30 came at the expense of many public employees losing their jobs, or the tens of thousands of public employees who are now taking home thousands of dollars less each year as the result of higher health insurance and pension costs."
I get your point - sure in terms of "economic stimulus" you might be better off giving a bigger chunk to fewer people, that small savings aren't spent. Guess tax breaks to millionaires is a good thing then? Doesn't that logically follow? I'll admit to having a Clark Howard viewpoint & that's problematic in some ways. I just can't see everyone spending every dime they get as a good thing, even if that is what's in the best interests of the economy. If that $20-30 means $20-30 that Joe doesn't put on his credit card, we've just saved him many times that in interest that would have had no stimulus effect either.
How many public employees have lost their jobs? Not asking to be argumentative, serious question. Because the argument from the Walker Administration seems to be that there weren't significant job losses in the public sector and that increased contributions are at least to some degree responsible.
Personally, I'd ague that getting health insurance & pension expenses in line was a structural fix necessary to solve long-term problems. Health care inflation doesn't look to have an end in sight (since it would rely on good legislation to address), and defined benefits plans are problematic at best, if those things weren't addressed at some point, they'd end up crippling...or at least severely limiting the financial options of the government. Historically we had government jobs that were lower salaried, but better benefits. Somewhere along the way, the salaries caught up to private sector without any drop in benefits. Screw it. Give them the same benefits that the rest of us have and pay the jobs the going rate so we can compare apples to apples. Even if that means higher salaries for public employees, we gain transparency.
Guess tax breaks to millionaires is a good thing then? Doesn't that logically follow?
No, it doesn't. N.B. the law of diminishing marginal utility.
So we can't give out small tax breaks/credits to everyone because it doesn't have much stimulus effect. And we can't give them to the rich because there's a diminishing return. The answer is to give a good chunk to the middle? Which just so happens to jive with appeasing the most voters since just about everyone considers themselves middle class. Bread and circuses. Unfortunately, that costs a hell of a lot of money.
Or the government can just get the hell out of the re-distribution business - stop trying to transform people and society and just take in the bare minimum to provide only the absolutely necessary services. Military, infrastructure, framework of rules and safety net.
Scott Walker. Absolute job failure. It's working. Some days you wonder if Jim Doyle and Scott McCallum are secretly funding Tim Russell and all of the circus that is Walkerville.
Locke,
Regarding your last paragraph of your long comment . . . I would generally disagree about your point regarding the need to mess with public employee health insurance and pension expenses, but I won't bother to get into that.
What is more an issue with that comment is that such a "structural fix" to solve supposed "long term problems" is limited to state government. Maybe you think it has a bearing on the long term fiscal health of the state, as a state. But, it has no direct impact on private businesses - like all the ones plastered here by RS.
What I believe this post by RS started to get at was the concept of supply versus demand, or trickle down versus bottom up. Even if you accept that these changes helped shore up government budgets, what you cannot deny is that many people took a significant pay cut (I personally know many first hand in this boat), many people got fired (I don't actually know anyone first hand here), and a whole rack of people chose to retire and leave the workforce and begin their retirement living off their pensions or benefits, etc (I personally know some first hand in this boat as well).
The result of all three of these things, for all three groups of people, is a significantly diminished spending capacity. Some just have less disposable cash, others are out of work, and many now must be cognizant of living on a fixed retirement income.
When you add each and every one of these people up, and then take their whole families into consideration, it leads to a huge net decrease in overall spending by the people of Wisconsin. That money was shifted to the state's ledger through decreased spending, increased taxes (in the form of higher contributions to pensions and health care), and increased tax breaks to business who are the producers and not the consumers.
Taken together, it all hits hard at anyone that relies on spending - which is not the government, but the private sector. Granted, some of the layoffs are in industries with customers far and wide, not just from Wisconsin. But, I would still argue many of the same forces are at play there too.
In survey after survey, private business has rejected the notion that the GOP's favorite bogeyman has a major impact on them, at least at this time. They are explicit that available credit is not a major problem. They are explicit that government regulation is not a major problem. Time and again, the number one reason private entities currently give for their struggles is a lack of demand. You cannot justify a tax credit to upgrade your equipment if the equipment will just go unused, or not used to capacity. You cannot justify a tax credit to hire more workers if those workers have nothing to do. You can produce all the widgets in the world, with as many people as you want, with the best equipment you want, but it's all for nothing if you don't have anyone to buy all those widgets.
True Walker should not have mentioned a specific number of jobs but to expect someone to completely mend Wisconsin's business climate after 8 years of Jimmy Fund Raider Doyle and a neocom statist legislature is expecting a bit too much.
Yes collective bargaining and free pension and benefits need to be restored so that the government union members have the purchasing power to boost Wisconsin's economy. Along with this we need to establish a minimum wage for them of 200K/yr to push Wisconsin's economy into the stratosphere.
Why cannot the Governor call in his long time go to guy to fix the problem? An (alleged) repeated embezzler, child porn loving and full time campaigner aide. Because Walker did as much for job creation at Marquette as he did in the Assembly as he did for Milwaukee County. Tim Russell was one of he brain trust that made the card triks in Milwaukee work. Two page jobs plan? Vague ideas? No track record on economic development? Job on idea on a bag? Walker is failing because he has never done this before ever. It's like hiring a tribesman from Sudan to run into Daytona 500 15 minutes before the race and predicting you will win by 40 laps.
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